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I basically agree. There was a lot of system exploiting in the beginning and now its just to the point where there are only a few top active players that are big enough to do any damage unless the enemy does something stupid or gets caught with no troops. Anyone new just gets destroyed right away, and even if they make it half of their size they get hit once by near 600-1000 gual riders and lose a lot of important buildings. The honor system does not scare the top players one bit. It doesn't even really effect them all that much really. I feel if the hit makes you lose a lot of honor perhaps a defensive penalty for the attacker should occur. I don't know what should be done but if the server can be reset and exploitation stopped more then you'd see a slightly more competitive healthy more active server of more players.

thats why a tiny group use humans

Its true DE are way more powerful then humans, but i think their buildings are ugly and dumb

All games should be reset and modified, having speed, stable, beta, islands is far too many. There is a base for a great game to be created and the developers should ask all players for suggestions.
I think 20 in a clan is too many, I also think 10 is too many, 5 is ideal. Outposts are used to attack smaller new players to get runes, like a trap waiting for them to develop into a village that can be plundered over and over and then they leave.

The game should be based on maintaining players, stable is at that point where it is hard to find any clan above the top 4, and massive amounts of players are in v mode.

Players become too powerful and are imune from attacks because of their size and strength, then because of the honour system are unable to attack anyone so they create a massive op, very little resources heaps of troops.

There is also the problem of players that can pay for runes and those that cannot, a distinct advantage when you can buy 50 runes when starting and the no account players 0 so is there a place for a paid game and a non paid game?

Just some thoughts of many many ideas.

It unbalances the game, it renders the game to something that's not a game.
Happened on speed v1 and now again.. no balance, new players can't play, older players will get farmed by the bigger ones, need i say more?

I know what i'm talking about...
I started one month later then the #1 player, it's hardly impossible to catch up.
(and that's me, imagine a "normal" player with less godlike skills and less time to be online )

Demonic ofcourse it unbalances the game, that's because the game is unbalanced. Now everybody is focusing on waterrunes to get as much gual as possible, leaving the other runes useless except for laddering up and get more ops.

12K villages can destroy 8K villages without honorloss stealening a ton of runes and res.

Balance out the numbers and the game balances out. Alot off the problems would go away or become a lot less. If not you can hunt "exploiters" or "cheaters" for the rest of your dolumarlife, making the game a witchhunt, everybody quits because they can't stand the childish behavior and the countless nagging when you do attack someone. And yes with the numbers now it is impossible for new players to catch up or even survive.

As for laddering up, some guys had the idee off limiting the number off runes you can recive each day by trading. I believe it was 5 a day. You could also make it 30 a month on speed and 10 a month on stable like premium.

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Onces you have some reserves you can destroy everything you don't need, leave a gual village, destroy 1/4 off the villages who like to play normal each day, steal runes you can't use while destroying 1/4 off the other players village each day and steal enough resources to get by. If you don't you can't do a thing since you can't win by attacking a player off the same size if he has his troops home. Any form off working with clanmates or friends is conciderd cheating or multiattacking, any form off stratagie is considerd cheating or multieattacks. So what is left is attacking smaller villages just in your honorrange or a little under it, who have no change at all and have 1/4 off their village destroyed each day.
If you do well, you get punished and can't attack anybody off the same size because honor is calculated on the number off runes you have. You can't attack someone in your honorrange because you haven't had the time to transform those runes into army.

That doesn't look like a game many players would want to play (just look at the number off people playing now) and that looks nothing like what the text say here

my opinion:

* lower the number off runes and res stolen from villages in an attack. If you want you can still let the winner get the same but only take a part off the looser and create a part out off tin air.
So players who have lost don't have to restart after every big attack and you open the game to strategie and war (basicly fun)
* make the difference in strengt between the different kind off troops smaller.
* Start honorloss sooner (on 10% or something that would mean the stronger villages would be on about 55% strengt to 45% for the smaller villages if they had the same % used on troops)
*Base honorloss back on seize instead off number off runes.
*give mods more power like demonic says, but I suggest to make a topic on this forum where only devs and mods can leave post that says: deliberate attacks on clanmembers for rune protection or delay of battles is considerd abuse and have a minimumpenalty off 1 week forced vacation.

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Invi I didn't say there is no unbalancing and exploitation going on (I agreed with demonic to give mods more power), but some players take it so far that basicly all you are allowed to do is sit there and wait until you get destroyed. You said yourself: now its just to the point where there are only a few top active players that are big enough to do any damage unless the enemy does something stupid or gets caught with no troops.
It's what some off the players have created. Do anything else and you'll be yelled at in chat and your village destroyed. So yes it became a wicthhunt in finding any reason possible to destroy someone since there are no little helpless targets left to attack and any form off teamplay or strategy is not allowed.
It's not just the game that needs some fixing it's also the players who need some fixing. We created this ourselves, now look at what happend.

This is one off the reasons why I asked for clear rules so it's clear what is exploiting and cheating and the witchhunt can stop and we can actualy try to play.

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Honestly, at this point in time, Speed is all but over as a direct result of the misuse of game mechanics.  I think rampant abuse of these mechanics now may be the only thing that will get the developers attention.  Many of us have tried to convey these abuses without writing out a step by step program for utilizing them, but to no avail.  Maybe the better solution would be to publicly explain how to abuse the system so that the developers will be left with no choice but to address it or abandon the game.  Either route is probably doing us all a favor.

Here's a thought in reference to equipment trading.

I don't want to muddle my other thread with non-essential items.    What if the trading of weapons was changed so that when weapons were traded, they lost level(s) everytime they changed hands.  Additionally, if traded down, they lose an additional level per 40 runes difference between the villages.

For example, a 6000 value village(~200 runes) had steelsword10, and traded it to a 1000 value village (~33 runes) it would be come a Steelsword5.  (level10 - ((((200-33)=167)/40)=4)-1).  If the small village sends it back, it becomes Steelsword 4.  Passed again to the smaller village, and its a Rusty Steelsword.

If equipment degradaded, then people would be hesitant to loan out their high upgraded equipment, and equipment sent down to small village would become substandard for the same iron cost.  Additionally, there would end up with an entire mess of different equipment levels, complicating the art of equipping regiments.  On the higher end of the game, it would just mean you have your own armor/smiths for level 10 equipment, or get level 9 from someone else.  The formula could be scaled to give a little wider range of values on the highend, but the intent should be to discourage high level equipment at low values.

Demonic you would still be able to destroy players but it would take weeks not days.
Like waltang said it's a war game not assassination.
Nobody wants to restart every couple off days.
And again you take it over the top, making sure you have a big player in your clan is a smart choose, but that means sometimes the little ones will have to ladder up runes, the big one protects the little ones, what is unfair about that?
Why not take away all trading, every player for his own and your gualcity can destroy them all and feed your runefever.

We played it your way, it doesn't work, most players left, lighten up there are more people on this world beside you.
We are trying to make the game so more players would like it.

And please no more honorcodes or all that players will do is search for reason or excuses to be allowed to attack/destroy someone (=>witchhunt). It's a wargame, all is fair in love and war and if you don't destroy a village right away it is no problem and we can play a little instead off playing sim city.

Demonic said: Most of the abuse/cheating is from using rules for other things that they are intended for.
Sending loose runes to a friend before an attack is a problem according to you. They are loose, you put them in a bag, give that bag to one off your villagers, put that guy on a horse, slap the horse on the back and send them off to a friend. It's what many kings did in midevil times when in war. It only means you have to attack more then ones, use your brain, try and get some friends and have a proper war.
Btw how do you know what they are intended for, that's up for the creators off the game, not the guy who chased most players away.
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The reason why I target you personaly is because in all the post here everybody trys to improve the game for all players. All you do is try to get more runes, even somehow you turn the modideas in trying to get more runes.
In the last few months you have made more players quit on your on by your childish behaviour and your witchhunt than all players togheter in all the time dolumar has been here.
Reset speed wont help, not many players want to play this way anymore.
Go on your way, and even less players will stay.

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