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  • Registered: 2010-09-17
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Topic: unfair

what is the deal with speed if your human you have very little if no chance at all to beat the dark elves is there a way to make it fair

  • From: KELEVRA on STABLE
  • Registered: 2009-11-27
  • Posts: 165

Re: unfair

Well speed server is just another test server. Yes elves are overpowered but the equipements that are available only to humans are better then the eqipements available to elves, this is supposed tobring a bit of balance. But its up for debate if it accomplishes that or not. This amongs many other things needs to be fixed before the speed rule set is applied to stable server. If it will actually be fixed that another thing alltogether.

  • Registered: 2009-11-17
  • Posts: 131

Re: unfair

Humans generally have a hard time getting to a point when they can craft halberts and full plate(which elves can still use, but elves generally prefer lighter armor.) if the equipment was suppose to be an equalizer then its a failure, not just because of the rune investment, but also because the iron cost and time it takes to make them. If say beta(the only server i play now) were actually active(people to attack on the regular) i couldn't keep up production of hallys and full plate to reequip my men, if i could that means im using Alot of runes on iron and alot of runes on gems and wiz towers....thats alot of fire rune, where as elves can use nothing or basic equipment and be devastating. All that said i still prefer humans

  • Registered: 2010-02-12
  • Posts: 35

Re: unfair

Even if humans do reach the point that they can craft halbards, it still does not bring balance.

Hypothetically, lets say that it did bring the battles to even.  Humans have twice the troops to re-equipt after each battle, meaning that in order to have balance, they must use twice as much iron to achieve it.  That is runes that the elves use to make.... more guals.  Back to imbalance.

That assumes they are even, which they are not even close.  At this point, humans can commit to make massive iron, halbards and full plates, forget about knights and swordsmen and go 100% spearmen, and should be able to hang with an even sized elf army (rune for rune), but at that, has no ability to go offensive.  In the current game's state, humans can strive to be a pincushion at best.

A good start to fixing: (some of these are Demonic's idea, so don't think I'm taking all credit)

1. Make the human only weapons very cheap iron cost.
2. Add human only armors, also cheap iron cost.
3. Slightly increase the cavalry defense of swordsmen and knights.
4. Allow archers to fire every round.  (At least any round that they are not engaged in melee)
5. Slightly reduce the gold cost of human units.

Not sure if even that would get humans on an even footing, but may at least give them a chance.  As it stands now, Humans have to ability to stand up against the elves.

  • Registered: 2010-08-16
  • Posts: 54

Re: unfair

I say Yes to the improvements!

Can't you see that tiny black dot????