• From: Rode off into the sunset
  • Registered: 2009-11-25
  • Posts: 524

Re: Portals can make me lose honor...

Ask anyone who has an outpost with tons of runes and a main that has far fewer runes in it... rune banking is over-rated.  I am only aware of one incident in the history of the game where it was actually a case of cheating.  The rest of the time, it's just been very aggressive gameplay combined with increasing build times.

7 x 13 = 28

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  • From: limburg, belgium
  • Registered: 2010-01-13
  • Posts: 210

Re: Portals can make me lose honor...

Voldtekt wrote:

Not everyone can runebank though.

true, if you can't buy runes you need a good technique to save runes or you have to be lucky to win several runes in one attack, otherwise you just use all your runes before you can obtain new ones

Stable didn't last, goodbye Dolumar.
mods can delete this account if they want to, maybe they'll do something usefull for once.
  • From: Rode off into the sunset
  • Registered: 2009-11-25
  • Posts: 524

Re: Portals can make me lose honor...

That's the other part of the problem.  That mechanic has deincentivized rune purchases.  Why buy runes when it just means that someone bigger is going to take them?

7 x 13 = 28

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  • Demonic
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  • Registered: 2009-11-17
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Re: Portals can make me lose honor...

i thought the problem was to solve the cheating and to stop some kind of weird behaviour we did have on speed.
What would happen in some clans is when somebody got attacked and would lose runes to the attacker they would selfimplode the village, send all the runes to a new account created by a friend and leave the attacker with nothing but losses.
That friend could also switch over the account so the original player had his runes back after all.

It's no problem to save up some runes, it's no problem to send runes to any other player.
What happened back then was a problem.
So what if we would use the rankings based on runes in posession?

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.
  • Demonic
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Re: Portals can make me lose honor...

Hellikin wrote:

All of the hype and concerns about "rune banking" got started by the actions of a single player on speed in his efforts to preserve a rather substantial collection of runes.  There is simply no advantage to storing runes in a smaller village - and there never really has been.  Some people try to do it to spare their runes from an incoming attack, without thinking of the fact that they will now lose buildings.  Given our slow build times, tearing down anything of strategic import really cripples a player over the long run.

Wow, one player really has that much influence?
Who was it?

Anyways, the reason why some people did see an advantage was that the attacker didn't gain any runes, i know some people went "runehunting" follow the runes whereever they were sent.
Sometimes the runes went from a top 5 player all the way down to a newly created account... and next there was hello resetting that account because it was a multi of the original sender.
(in that case the original sender was stupid to use 2 accounts and got caught, if he would have used his own account the runes would have been found, if he used a different mail adress and didn't log on on 2 accounts there was no problem)

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.